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Dave Laribee

"Whoso would be a man must be a nonconformist." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

ALT.NET Open Spaces Waiting List and New Ideas...

I've received a good chunk of questions and feedback about ALT.NET Open Spaces, Seattle; it sold out pretty quickly.

Here's the good news: if you were on the waiting list there's a very good chance you got a spot at the event. You should have received an email, but there's a chance it got spammed. As the altdotnet.org site is pretty new, I'd err on the side of leaving nothing to chance, so CHECK YOUR REGISTRATIONS!

We're really not making a secret out of the fact that we "prime the pump" with some invitations. One of the neat aspects of this event is that it's a big mix-in for our community with heavies  -- Martin Fowler, Scott Guthrie, Ward Cunningham, James Shore, John Lam and Jim Hugginin, The Israelis (Ayende/Roy/Udi), CodeBetter people and many more -- and up-and-comers with just flat-out interesting ideas and a drive to learn, experiment, and question. That's the secret sauce and we're going to have to keep it that way for this form factor of conference.

One thing I've been kicking around is the idea of doing a more traditional style of conference with a twist for learning. This idea came up in a conversation with Scott Bellware, Josh Holmes, Ray Lewallen, John "QB" Kordyback and myself in a hotel bar after the ALT.NET Summit, NYC. I'll toss out the main outline of the idea and (hopefully) get some feedback from people:

  1. It would be longer: four or five days.
  2. It would start 2-3 days of workshops or classes upfront on advanced topics: DDD, T/BDD, Agile, Patterns, SOA/Messaging, etc.
  3. The final days would lead into a kind of "dream conference" with talks given by well-known speakers.
  4. It would cost money, not a lot, but some...

That last point is a tough one. I've always wanted to keep this free or low-cost; we're trying to create a venue for spreading new ideas and improving our craft. The fact of the matter is that a lot of well-known speakers require that a) conferences take place in the business week and b) at least expenses are paid or there's some recovery of opportunity cost. This is understandable; you get to a point in your career where events have to be considered against a very, very loaded schedule.

I like the model that the RubyConf people have. My goal would be to make the conference as affordable as possible. If we do come up with a surplus, I'd want to reinvest 100% of that back into funding local ALT.NET groups and events (Open Spaces, Dojos, what-have-you).

So I thought I'd throw this idea out there and solicit feedback, concerns, questions, comments, ideas, etc. I know there's no shortage of that out there in this community and that's something I value.


Published Feb 13 2008, 11:37 AM by Dave Laribee
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Troy Tuttle said:

I understand the concerns over free vs. fee-based conferences.  But if you have to exclude the participation of a wider audience to achieve a free conference for a small, select minority, what are you really accomplishing?  

I was planning to attend this conference, but my wife's due date is within the week, so this one will be out.  But if I was able to attend, I (or my employer) wouldn't mind shelling out a couple hundred bucks to cover conference logistics.  Do I need continental breakfasts and gourmet lunches provided?  No.  Do I need all the extra fluff that typically accompanies large, high-production conferences.  No.  

Set a price and hire a professional conference manager to insure it isn't a total mess.  Keep the costs low.  But don't exclude the real and potential larger audience so that you can keep the event free for a small number of elites.   It's just economics in the end.  And it's nothing more than acknowledging that we live in a world of limited resources--nothing is really free.  

Ultimately, you need to think about what you want ALT.NET to be.  Do you want it to be narrow and elite, or broad and diverse?

# February 16, 2008 2:00 PM

Roy Osherove said:

I like the idea!

I'd go to it for sure.

on a different note - is that all we are to you these days? "The Israelis" ?

Surely, the word 'mafia' should be in there somewhere ;)

# February 16, 2008 4:16 PM

Dave Laribee said:

@Troy - No doubt. Ideally there will be a number of "form factors" or "venues" that aid the accessibility factor. What I'm pitching here is a big conference where you get the big names mixed in with attendees where skill and experience run the gamut. I agree lo-fi is the way to go. We don't need an expo. We don't need lanyards.

Still I see aggregating thought leadership as an important activity. Open Spaces provides a venue to mix the well known with the up-and-comer. It provides a space and time by which we can gel as a community, etc. So it's got that purpose. My hope is that we can get to a place where these are kind of like a CodeCamp... where they happen regionally.

@Roy - Heh ;)

# February 16, 2008 4:29 PM

Symon Rottem said:

I'd certainly be interested in trying another format too.  I certainly enjoyed the Open Spaces format of the UK conf but I think it would be interesting to have some speakers as part of the event as well.

# February 16, 2008 5:49 PM

Justice~! said:

You are not alone - we've been having discussions among even just the Edmonton guys of a more active learning-based conference, with legitimate lengthy workshops on more advanced topics rather than a 1 hour here, 1 hour there sort of thing.  I certainly believe that the market for something like that would be there, and it really is massive ROI for people attending - they are going to have actually learned and perhaps done some "hands-on" work in some of these spaces, which is all too valuable.

# February 18, 2008 12:52 AM

Kristin Ferrier said:

Before charging a fee, you might consider seeing if you can find sponsors to cover the cost of the event. Tulsa Tech Fest originally charged $40 for the event. Upon receiving enough sponsorship to cover the event, they then refunded everyone's registration fee.

# February 18, 2008 6:09 PM

Jeff Tucker said:

woohoo!  I made the list!

I like the idea of a conference, but I think that charging a small fee would be fine if the quality of the conference is high.  Also, consider that I live in Seattle, so if the conference is anywhere far away, I'll have to get there somehow and find a place to stay.  This will probably cost me at least $1000, so if the conference costs less than about $200 or so, I'd consider the amount trivial in comparison with the added expense to attend.

What if we had some sort of financial assistance for those who qualify or a scholarship fund or something?  Establish some criteria for eligibility.  Maybe write some essay on why you should be able to attend.  This would be something that would need a lot of discussion and that everyone would have to come to agreement on, but if we charge a bit more for those who are able to pay (like those people who have their company paying for them) then we'd have some money for a scholarship fund.

# February 25, 2008 2:04 PM

Colin Jack said:

Sounds good but to be honest my trips to things like ALT.NET Seattle are self funded so if you add on any significant fee then it would make going more painful :)

Having said that the longer conferences idea is a good one, would it be hand in hand with the shorter format that you have at the minute?

# February 29, 2008 3:54 AM

Matthew Podwysocki's Blog said:

It's almost a month away until ALT.NET Open Spaces, Seattle and things are coming along nicely. As you

# March 14, 2008 2:52 AM

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